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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Okay so I have a 2001 civic ex coupe.

I bought some speakers ahh a bit over a year ago. I have a nice dual 12 sub system in the back that is hooked up right haha BUT my speakers in the doors were also replaced.

What cheap JUNK was in the doors, the driver one broke but they sounded bad anyways.

I put in some 300 dollar alpine?(not sure at the moment) coaxial speakers but I did not understand fully the whole crossover part. I also left the stock tweeters in because it required a housing mod to switch them and the others made sound haha.

Well I also did NOT amp the door speakers because all 4 channels(bridged) go to my 2 12's in the back.

I have noticed since day one and lately it is almost like it is getting worse but the front speakers just do not have enough "definition" nor volume. You just can't hear anything as good as you should be able to.

Now they sound better than the stock ones did, I had them in before the subs were in so I know.

Do I NEED to bridge them for them to sound better/louder? Or amplify them with a cheap amp?
 
Old Feb 11, 2010 | 07:15 AM
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You have to use crossovers. You will just burn out your mids and tweeters by connecting everything in parallel.

Also pay close attention to speaker polarity, as having the phase of a speaker reversed makes the whole setup sound weird.
 
Old Feb 11, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Well you see there is 2 wires that connected to stock speakers, in order to do the crossover setup I have to somehow run new wires through the doors?
 
Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Mount the crossover inside the door. Near the bottom should be OK so the moving window parts don't hit it.
 
Old Feb 11, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Component speakers sound much much better than coaxials, but it seems like you have a good set of coaxials.

The problem is, you bought a good set of speakers that require more power and you just aren't giving it to them. it's like buying an f450 with a v4 in it.

Also, I highly recommend NOT using a 4 channel amp for your subs. Maybe use that the 4chan for the fronts and get a MONO amp for the subs.
 
Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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I have dual 12's....why would I or how could I use a MONO amp?

but it seems like you have a good set of coaxials.
No, I said I had components....yes more power would be great but how I would wire that up, I am not sure haha.
 
Old Feb 16, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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With Dual 12's you can use a Mono if its pushing enough power, because a mono amp WILL have a two channel input and one output (im too tired to explain the wiring right now) Its either that, or a nice Two Channel... But i agree with your four channel i would use that to power all of your other speakers and get a new one for your subs, You should not use component speakers in an "Un-Amplified" Situation, just not really a good thing to do, you will never power them correctly, And you should be able to just put your crossover in before your mid-woofer for your signal (should not need to run new wires) then put the new tweeter in (Totally worth it) and then tie in to the factory wiring behind the dash with your amp to give em the right juice..

Also the Crossover just divides the sound input to each driver IE. Mid/low frequency's to the mid-woofer, and High's to the tweeter, withought the crossover you WILL ruin your tweeter, they are not meant to handle lower frequencies and it will sound TERRIBLE if you did not use a crossover anywho.

Hopefully that made sense..
 

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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If you don't know why you should use a mono amp for subs, definitely go check out a car audio forum like soundsolutionsaudio.com. That's a really basic, important thing. I'm not trying to put you down, there was a time where i didn't even know i needed an amp for a sub lol.

there's a lot more you should know before even thinking about buying or installing your own equipment. The best way to learn is to read, read, read. And if you have any questions you can't find answers to, there's quite a few people here willing to help
 
Old Feb 24, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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A for channel amp is wired the same way as a two channel amp, but the difference is you need to hide more wires. You wire the speakers accordingly, as the amp is labeled, and do it like you would the individual subs. This not only sounds much better, but will make the distortion that happens when you turn up your radio much less. (ie. you can make it louder!!!!)
 
Old Feb 24, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by frankenstein616
A for channel amp is wired the same way as a two channel amp, but the difference is you need to hide more wires. You wire the speakers accordingly, as the amp is labeled, and do it like you would the individual subs. This not only sounds much better, but will make the distortion that happens when you turn up your radio much less. (ie. you can make it louder!!!!)
uhhhh....what?
 
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