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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by simons81
is there a particular spot on the door that you've found that allows you to direct the tweeter towards your head fairly well? i'm guessing i'll just sorta have to setting with the tweeters aiming at each other instead of myself and the passenger seat... either way though, it sounds like a fun upgrade to do! i just wish i could aim them a little bit, and unfortunately, i know nothing about fiberglass. i've been looking at some of the dampening materials and it seems like i just need to cover as much door surface as possible aye? i think i saw a kit with like 36x24 inches or something... that seems like it'd do two doors fairly well...
Well as far as the tweets go, they really dont have to be pointed at your head. The acoustics of your car will make up for the angle. I wouldnt mess with fiberglass unless I was making a speaker pod for the floorboards. TRUST me when you flush the tweeters on your door panels the install will look sweet! The tweets should come with mounts that should swivel a little bit.

As far as the deadening, its personal preference. A speaker kit would do fine for just the back of the 6.5, but for all around sound do the whole inside of your door. It will also improve the sound of you closing your door. It almost sounds like closing a beamer door. TOit like a toiger! (its not necessary to cover the whole inside of the shell, place one on the inside behind speaker just enough to kind of "cup" the 6.5) You can do a whole door sparingly and achieve maximum sound deading by covering the area between the panel and the door shell, it seals the interior of the car. YOU dont have to fill all of the insides of the door!

Lemme know if you need help
 
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Hey, thanks for the pointers, I definitely appreciate the help. I think what I'll do is position the tweets around and find a sweet spot for them.

So here's my plan, I'm definitely going fairly budget here, but anything will improve my sound. I decided to take $300 of my tax return and use it towards car stereo stuff which I know is way cheapo, but whatever. So here's my idea... I already own a 2x60w RMS Pioneer Amp and a 2x10" Pioneer sub (again, cheapo stuff). I'm going to take the amp and use it for front component speakers instead and wait on the sub until I can buy a slightly better amp to power the subwoofer a little better (besides, I really need some trunk bars, I don't even have a spare tire and the sub would just fall through the particle board trunk piece). Then, I'll spend the $300 like so (open for pointers, btw):

Clarion DXZ585USB CD Receiver $90 (already purchased)
STREETWIRES PSKA8R Amp Wire Kit $30
Harness + Dash Kit $16
Dynamat 10435 Xtreme Door Kit $57
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Subtotal: $193

This leaves me with $100-$120 or so left for my front speakers. I went to a car store today and checked out a few pairs. I actually really liked the sound of the Infinity Reference 6020cs which can be found for $100. I'm quite curious about the Polk Audio db6501 which has high reviews on Crutchfield, but I can't find them anywhere to listen to... I don't know anyone who's owned a Polk Audio product so I'm guessing I should go with what I liked in the store.

For what it's worth, I really liked the Focal 165A1 speakers which really surprised me since the tweets are aluminum, but they are $165 on ebay anyways... maybe I should save an extra $50... argh, decisions.

Anyways, overall, does this seem like decent logic? Then, later down the line I can get the subwoofer installed?

Sorry for asking a million questions, money is just super hard to come by, but I do likes me some audio.

You know, I also don't know if I asked already.... how dry does the typical 99 Honda Civic door stay? Just curious about the baffle thing. I don't think the original owners ever had speakers installed, so the door shouldn't be missing any screws or clips or have been bent or anything. I just wanna plan ahead before taking the panel off and dynamatting the door...
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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It all depends on what sound you are looking for... what music do you mainly listen to? I will build you a price list of affordable yet higher quality components, I just need to know what you are looking for sound wise.

Please tell me what year/make/model your car is... 300 budget right? Already have deck and already have 2 channel amp for front?

Baffles question... I dont even have the grills on my civic front doors(didnt come with the car) and I bought some cheap jensen paper cones over 2 years ago and have been in the car since day 1 of me owning it ( didnt have any speakers) and I have not had 1 single issue of them getting wet or even punching holes in them. I truly think that is a myth unless you are going to turn your car into a submarine...
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by simons81
Hey, thanks for the pointers, I definitely appreciate the help. I think what I'll do is position the tweets around and find a sweet spot for them.

So here's my plan, I'm definitely going fairly budget here, but anything will improve my sound. I decided to take $300 of my tax return and use it towards car stereo stuff which I know is way cheapo, but whatever. So here's my idea... I already own a 2x60w RMS Pioneer Amp and a 2x10" Pioneer sub (again, cheapo stuff). I'm going to take the amp and use it for front component speakers instead and wait on the sub until I can buy a slightly better amp to power the subwoofer a little better (besides, I really need some trunk bars, I don't even have a spare tire and the sub would just fall through the particle board trunk piece). Then, I'll spend the $300 like so (open for pointers, btw):

Clarion DXZ585USB CD Receiver $90 (already purchased)
STREETWIRES PSKA8R Amp Wire Kit $30
Harness + Dash Kit $16
Dynamat 10435 Xtreme Door Kit $57
----------------------------------
Subtotal: $193

This leaves me with $100-$120 or so left for my front speakers. I went to a car store today and checked out a few pairs. I actually really liked the sound of the Infinity Reference 6020cs which can be found for $100. I'm quite curious about the Polk Audio db6501 which has high reviews on Crutchfield, but I can't find them anywhere to listen to... I don't know anyone who's owned a Polk Audio product so I'm guessing I should go with what I liked in the store.

For what it's worth, I really liked the Focal 165A1 speakers which really surprised me since the tweets are aluminum, but they are $165 on ebay anyways... maybe I should save an extra $50... argh, decisions.

Anyways, overall, does this seem like decent logic? Then, later down the line I can get the subwoofer installed?

Sorry for asking a million questions, money is just super hard to come by, but I do likes me some audio.

You know, I also don't know if I asked already.... how dry does the typical 99 Honda Civic door stay? Just curious about the baffle thing. I don't think the original owners ever had speakers installed, so the door shouldn't be missing any screws or clips or have been bent or anything. I just wanna plan ahead before taking the panel off and dynamatting the door...
By the way for components I would check out alpine... I am a big fan of their stuff... look at the type-s component system
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chasemclemore
By the way for components I would check out alpine... I am a big fan of their stuff... look at the type-s component system
The Type R woofer provides a better midbass response and has a cleaner midrange



 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Yea Im with you on the typeR but it seems that he is budget shopping... You should have seen my mustang before I sold it to buy my F150. Had to sell it becuse it got smashed 4 times and they never totalled it, ahhh it was scary to drive. Anywho:

(2) Mtx 81000D + (2) 1 Farad caps (fosgate) pushing 2 Alpine typeR 1221d's (2 ohm)

Mids and highs= infinity 5x7 rear, alpine R components in front all pushed by 400 watt alpine MRV amp.

ps2 flush mounted under rear seat (drivers side) Xbox flush mounted under (passenger side rear)

Alpine IVAD indash screen with dvd (pac adapter for bypass)

Glow gauges

all badges removed off of body and cobra R front clip on front

Sittin on 275-40-17's Factory wheels

Off road X pipe

Super limo tinted all around

remote start, remote windows, trunk release, clutch bypass

high o/p alternator and gel battery

it was an 02 btw...

O gauge from battery 140 amp fuse split 3 ways to 4 gauge to run amps...

green neons on interior/underside (car was black) wired into parking light switch.

Sorry had to reminise=, I miss that car... Play tekken with that much bass it would shake ur brain!
 

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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I hear you on missing the old car.

I liked having this:


In this:


Until a drunk driver did this:


I say "drunk" rather loosely because he barely squeaked by coming in just shy of the .08 limit

ETA: I removed the pin stripes right after I took the first photo because when I went to look at the car, it didn't have them and the dealership added them as part of their "dealer prep package".
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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I only listened to the type S Alpines and I really didn't care for them much. However, I mostly listen to metal-style music, lots of guitar with crazy drums. Course I like my rap here and there too. As far as the Alpines though, maybe it's just the way they sounded in the showroom, maybe they sound better in a car. I'm gonna take a trip to Frys tomorrow night I think to listen to some Polk audio speakers...

Hey, gunz4me, did those tweeter a-pillars come with your ride? I want some of those, lol.

Anyways, thank you guys for the responses once again, I think this is the best forum I've ventured to in my years of nettin' it up.
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Yep that would be the stock tweeter pod that comes with the 96-00 EX models. Here are more photos of it:





I went with the CDT TW-25 tweeter because it just dropped right on in there
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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LOL, well, I guess I wish I had an EX. I'll do the flush mounted tweets on the door since it's unlikely I'll find an EX at a junk yard (couldn't hurt to look though). I'm sure they will look badass flush mounted, though hole-sawing kinda scares me.... maybe laying down masking tape will help keep the panel vinyl from ripping in an odd manner.
 

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