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Old 10-26-2008, 05:07 PM
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ok.. it says bad oxygen content so is it not getting enough air through the short ram ive got on it and what the hell is throttle angle how do i fix that

yah its a 88crx with a jdm b16a.. Sorry
 
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJ
Yeah, I think code 71 is only for 6th generation Civics. The Civic in question is a CRX (88-91), I believe.
yea but he says it has a swap, so we need to know what OBD he is using before we can diagnose the code
 
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Boost20
yah its a 88crx with a jdm b16a.. Sorry
What OBD is it?
is it even using the right ECU?
 
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:15 PM
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its a obd0 i think i had to replace the distributor and i put a obd0 on it so im asuming, i bought the car for 1700 and it had that swap in it already

i also found this on the throttle angle..

Code 7 - Throttle Position/Angle Sensor

TPS sensor input is used to determine when the throttle is:

Idle
Wide Open Throttle (WOT)
Rapid Movement
During these conditions the ECU makes changes to the injector Pulse Width (PW).
The PW is widen slightly when the throttle initially goes to idle. Within a few seconds the O2 sensor will correct the mixture.

Closed Throttle Input (under .5V), engine RPM is above 1100, engine is warm. The fuel injectors will be shut-off (used to conserve fuel). Peeps with A/F Ratio Meters will see this happen, when the gauge drops to full lean, or no reading at all.

When Wide Open Throttle is detected the PW is increased above normal fuel delivery. This is also known as "Open Loop" operation, when the ECU ignores the output from the O2 sensor.

With Rapid Throttle Opening the ECU is watching the TPS input voltage for rapid changes. A sudden rise in the voltage would mean the throttle was opened quickly. So the ECU would increase the PW momentarily. As soon as the MAP sensor senses the drop in vacuum, it will take over.

Testing - With the Key On, Engine Off hook up a voltmeter to the TPS. @ idle (closed throttle), voltage should be close to .5V and @ WOT (Wide Open Throttle) voltage should be 4.5V.

The best way to adjust the TPS voltage is @ idle (closed throttle). While Key On, Engine Off, hook up voltmeter between the yel/wht & grn/wht and observe reading. If it needs to be adjusted, loosen the TPS mounting and move the TPS until voltmeter reads close to .5V. The check engine light will let you know immediately whether you missed up or not.

TPS Sensor Wires:


1 Red/Blue
1 Green/White
1 Yellow/White

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Old 10-26-2008, 05:18 PM
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If the problems are not due to a swap, then the CEL codes point to problems with O2 sensor A and the throttle position sensor on the throttle body. Start by clearing the codes from the ECU by removing the HAZARD fuse for a couple of minutes, reinserting it, and then driving the car to see whether the CEL codes repeat. if the codes repeat, here's how to troubleshoot:

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Old 10-26-2008, 05:24 PM
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I'll haft to do all the checking with the voltage meter tomarow in the daylight and ive goto go to work in 1/2 hour..
 
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trustdestruction
What OBD is it?
is it even using the right ECU?
An ECU with a blinking LED is surely a OBD0. The OP should tell us the engine type (stamped on engine), though B16a was mentioned in title. I assumed B16a1 (matching the ECU), but I could be wrong.
 

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Old 10-26-2008, 05:39 PM
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oh alright
i missed the part where he verified that he was checking the code by the blinking light on the ecu
 
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:44 PM
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The stamp on the engine only says B16a it dosent have any numbers or anything else, I checked that when I first bought it so id know what kinda parts to buy for it but I would assume tht its a b16a1 because it dont say for exm. b16a3, but im not for sure
 
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:46 PM
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it says b16a because it's JDM
it's just a b16a, no numbers afterwards
 


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