I see a bunch of comments here like torqueless wonders for b16s, and some saying that they'd just upgrade the d series.

I was wondering, what makes the difference?

I have a d15, and am planning to swap to a b16. However, as you all already know, the d15 has less hp, but more torque then the b16...

So, since the b16 has more hp, is it quicker then the d15? or does the torque make the difference in "how fast it feels" or something like that. I'm not in much concern about how it feels, but more so in how fast it will actually go.

the d15's turbo can get like 220hp, and i know a set-up that will get the b16 close to 300, if not to hit 300 hp. But i was wondering what torque has to do w/ it all? Please help me understand, thanks.

 

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+torque%3F

(P.S. Click the one that says "What is Torque - Ask.car.com")

 

carroll shelby said it best, "horsepower sells cars, torque wins races."

 

The whole argument with B16 vs. D16 is that the B16 is basically a D16 with 2 cams and isn't worth the money it costs... it has a little more HP and around the same torque. The only Civic that comes with a B16 is the 94-97 del Sol VTEC and the 99-00 Civic Si. To get a B16 in any other Civic, you're looking at spending like $2-3k. Once you do the swap, you only end up with 158 BHP. Whereas if you had just kept the D16, you could have built the bottom end and turbocharged it for the same price as swapping a B16, bringing you safely to 300+ WHP on the D16.

So basically, you can spend 2-3k on a B16 swap and end up with 158 BHP, or you can spend 2-3k on a turbo D16 and make 225 WHP, or build the bottom end too, turn up the boost, and make 300+ WHP.


As far as torque goes, I think the posts before mine cover it well enough.

 

I've got a d15... not d16.

But same concept?

 

yuppa

 

From what i'm looking at, my d15 has 102hp, and 98 torque.
The b16 has 160hp, and 111 torque.

So even though the b16 has more hp and torque, it's better to build off of the d15?