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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by heatybaghatchguy99
My question is are you shifting it into neutral or just depressing the clutch pedal
and in your opinion do you believe driving with the clutch depressed (which is most likely safer than in neutral gear) causes more wear on the components than having it in neutral and if so how much more wear?

I am still at a debate as to how you think you are consuming less gas in neutral without actually doing a field test though. I like your view of no new gas being sucked into the fuel injection during the neutral gear, but would like to know your view on new gas being sucked into the engine while using the engine as a brake and having no pressure on the pedal. My guess here is while in neutral the engine is running at idle speed, and your guess is that while in gear the engine speed is higher and using more fuel.

We are also talking about the same automobile here right? 1991-present fuel injected.

Thank you for bearing with me during this,
and like I said
your Honda drive it how you want,
but will not catch me in neutral for extended coasting,
maybe on an easy city curve with clutch depressed and brake used then down shift to regain speed
take care
First, I really was referring to my Element. My two current Hondas are automatics: 2106 Pilot and 2013 Civic. I owned a 1999 Civic EX manual, but I never spent much time coasting in that car. I was still learning how to drive a stick; nothing fancy. Other than coming off the gas to glide to a stop and using my breaks as little as possible, I do not coast in neutral in my current cars. Besides, that little econ button does and better than passable job at increasing my mpgs without any help from me.

My Element however, that I owned for 12 years and hypermiled in for the last 8 of those years, was a manual, and yes, I coasted in neutral daily in that car. I didn't really mean to suggest that I had tested my "theory." I most certainly have and it had unequivocally resulted in higher mpgs to do so. Those are however MY facts and they are anecdotal (though totally representative of other hypermilers I know). Mileage may vary and you can get a different result than I did, but overall, in that 8 years, coasting gave me a 6-8 mpg boost. No lie. I went from getting 19mpg in the first few years to 26 mpg on average for the last 8. I lived in Vermont then and the roads are hilly, winding, and snowy so even with my Nokian tires, I still got vastly improved mpg. No special changes, gas additives, or other mitigating factors. I lived at the top of a hill at the end of a two mile dirt road that loved to wear out my brakes and CV joints, but caused no other real harm to the car.

I never once coasted with my foot on the clutch. It burns/wears out the clutch to hold it down like that without shifting into gear. In 298k miles in that vehicle, I replaced the clutch once (after 200k miles) and I never had engine or transmission trouble.

I hope that helps. If you have any more questions, just let me know.
 
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