Master jt is right. The new ones are all the same lx/dx/ex. And they have about 15 more hp. then 7th gen Ex, and 25 more hp then 7th gen dx/lx, so i would say yea they have potential.... if you thought the old ones did wouldn you say these would . just look at the hp.. wouldn't that suggest so?

 

As I read thought these posts I would also like to see what kind of potential I can bring out of my 08 Civic. I would also like to say that not everyone has an Si out there and are looking to bring the most they can out of there cars that they have.

Can we get any ideas, maybe even look at the small things such as removing the tire if staying in town(I live in a smaller town so I find I don't really need the spare as much as larger towns). Even the smallest thing could help in achieveing the things we are looking for.