It means they were too lazy to type out the specs for individual vehicles. Either that or they are so damn sh*tty that they don't even know how much they'll lower your car.

And the camber kit issue is debatable. Lots of people will say you don't need it, lots of people will say you do. Personally, I had to install one to get rid of my excessive tire wear.

 

see, thats what im worried about. remember out little arguement over toe and camber yep this is what im talkin bout i dont want excessive tire wear the suspension is gonna be stock other than drop springs.doesnt tire size matter also when droppin if youll need camber kit or not?

 

Bah okay I'll answer lol. Camber will not eat away your tires, it is in the toe. So after you lower it GET AN ALIGNMENT! I usually tell people to wait like 2-3 days after lowering it for the springs and everything to settle, then take it in. Now I would recommend a camber kit for the front just to keep everything straight, and if you need to run negative camber to fit wider rims. Here's my recommendations.

Front:
I would recommend getting them. The camber kit is your upper control arm. It makes the ball joint adjustable. I have Blox camber kit up front. Many people are against Blox because they use rubber bushings, but I have no complaints. If you want to spend 2x as much get Skunk2 camber kit, poly bushings, but I really don't think it is necessary. My only complaint about my Blox kit is the cheap *** castelated nut they give you for the ball joint. well I was impacting it on the nut stripped itself on the threads of the ball joint. The ball joint was fine, the nut was completely stripped, how I don't know.

Rear:
Rear camber kits are unnecessary. Cheap ones rust up and expensive kits are just a waste. Do what I did, it is called the washer trick. Basicaly you are putting washers behind the trailing arm control arm. This pushes out the top of thtire, taking away the negative camber. You just have to buy longer bolts, make sure to get at least 8.8 grade, and washers. My car is lowered probably 2.75-3", and I am running 2 washers on each bolt in the rear. I'm going to put 1 more in each this week since I'm running too much negative, ruining my hellflush look with steelies haha. The rule of thumb is 1 washer for every inch.

Hope ALL of this helped, I like to make posts in to essays, but the more in depth the better to understand in some situations.

 

I recommend Buddy Club camber kit for fronts... $155 shipped on eBay, and great quality.

 

What kind of bushings are in the bc's?

 

thank you scott that actually helped alot well hopefully i can get my car done by the end of my junior high school year cause theres a page in the yearbook where 5 cars get picked out and they do a school wide vote and id like to have that page to myself and the whole yearbook is in black and white other than that page which is pretty cool id love to have the sickest lookin car at school but looks like ill have big competition cause that cougar thats in the pics with my honda has ran for it since he started high school so id like to ruin that rice and show him what jdm really is.

 

idk, i have 92-95 version... which reuses stock bushings

 

Eh kids these days don't really know much. I just graudated from high school myself. All the people in hs think Fast and the Furious style cars are so sick and love body kits. And I'd have people in school ask me what's that purple thing sticking out of your bumper (old tow hook), and they don't understand how much work goes in to it. Like everyone at school knew I was one of the car people, and I did a lot of work for people, but nobody truely knows about what went in to my car as in money and time. And there was a friend of mine who had a gsr eg hatch. And everyday he would just bounce off launch control when he would park and claim he was checking his idle. His car was sick, but he would try to show it off. And 99% of the kids don't know what a gsr is, and weren't impressed by his showing off at all lol. You want to know what my senior year cars of the year was? It is embarassing for me to say it. It is a late 90s V6 automatic CONVERTIBLE Mustang. And the guy that drove it, didn't even own it, it was his parents. The winner for the girls was a early 2000s Celica with chrome tail lights. But I can't hate on here cause it is stick. And her brother is a good friend of mine with a fully built Eclipse GSX pusging 450 awhp. But seriously, I could have rolled up to school with a CTR and still wouldn't have gotten senior car of the year.

So LONG *** STORY short, it is hard to impress kids in high school. They know nothing and it is a waste of time lol.


Edit: Haha I just laughed at myself for how much I refer to high school students as "kids" as I just graduated a few monthes ago...

Edit: Edit: If you get Buddy Clubs then just get some polyurethane upper control arm bushings and put those in.

 

yeah i know what you mean i was talkin to a friend that has a 2000 civic si sharp honda hes like man when your done your gonna have the sickest car your school has ever seen i was like dude you have a si boosted and all and ur tellin me im gonna have the sickest car? i didnt understand. but i think i might go with blox idk yet,while im talkin about 2000 civic si's i was rollin around downtown checkin out woman and i pulled up beside this si boosted and you could tell the kid didnt know what he was doin with the turbo and i rolled down my window and didnt notice his girly friend was with him so i had some fun with this one i was like "aye how bout you get in my civic and ill show you what shocker really is. and of course he got pissed and the light turned green he revs it up dumps the clutch and just rips the tranny out i just put it in reverse and said ill give you 500$ for that car and your woman hahaha. talkin bout a pissed off kid.

edit:lookin around on ebay and found some skunk2 front camber kit pro series for 206.99 free shippin might buy them this paycheck doesnt sound like a bad price?
edit:edit went and measured 1.75 down on my fender and bumper and it really odesnt lower it to much so im thinkin 2.25inches in the front and 2 inch in the back. anybody know where i can find drop springs that will do that?

 

^Haha that's awesome. Honestly just get Blox or Buddy Club. And if you really want the polyurethane bushings order some ES bushings, probably be $20, and have a shop press them in real quick. Might even be able to do it yourself. But the rubber bushings in the Blox are fine. I have Blox camber kit up front and Blox lower control arms, I am an aggressive turner, so they get a workout. and the rubber bushings haven't squeaked on me once and are goin strong.

And I wish when I yelled **** at people that they just got pissed and drove away. Last time I yelled at some like 16 year old ghetto white kid and flipped him off he walked up to my car at a red light trying to be a real badass, and I could see him looking at my rear quarter like he was gonna kick it in. So I'm yelling at this kid to back away from my car and to not do anything he is going to regret, and my friend who's like 6'4" gets out of the passenger door, kid lost his interest in being a badass pretty quick. Seeing a 6'4" person get out of a car that is inches off the ground, makes him seem even bigger lol. My car is the last thing anyone should mess with, I wouldn't have a problem spending a night in prison or whatever if it meant beating the **** out of someone who messed with my car lol.