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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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These questions come from a class I am currently taking. I figured this would be a good place to get some feedback. Thanks for your responses.

What would you considered most important in an engine? Please list the following in the order of importance to you.
1. Weight
2. Volume
3. Fuel Economy
4. Reliability
5. Durability
6. Cost
7. Noise and Vibration
8. Performance
9. Service Requirements


Would you prefer more top speed or a lower 0 to 60?


Have you ever blown an engine? If so, how did you do it? Were you racing, tuning, etc.?


If you currently own a performace 4 cylinder engine:

A. How satisfied are you with the fuel economy?

1 = Too good! I would trade anything for more power.
2 = Good enough.
3 = Would like it to be better without sacrificing power.
4 = Would like it to be better even if it means a little sacrifice in power.

B. What is the current horsepower and fuel economy rating?

C. What is your ideal horsepower and fuel economy rating?

D. Is horsepower more important than torque?
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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What would you consider most important in an engine? Please list the following in the order of importance to you.
Cost
Reliability
Fuel Economy
Performance
Durability
Performance
Service Requirements
Noise and Vibration
Volume
Weight


 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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ngoti8tor, do you even have your car yet?
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: Mossy
ngoti8tor, do you even have your car yet?
No, I don't have my Civic yet, (still drivin my 94 Grand Am that I had to buy fast after my divorce). I have some cash, and I'm lookin and still savin till I find the one I want. That's why I only answered the first part of the question.

I know I definitely want a 99 or 00 Hatchback. I've been watchin all the ads everywhere around me and I see they come in a few different models such as CX, DX, (and I actually saw one on the road today, it was an EX). I also saw one for sale quite a ways away from me that was a DX SE.
So while I'm in no hurry to buy, I keep lookin (I don't wanna rush) until I find "The One" and in the meantime, I'm gettin a lot of great info from all the people on this site, and I'm also tryin to find out the difference between some of the models that I'm lookin at. (example: difference between DX and DX SE ........ does the SE have any options that I really wanna hold out for?) Because of my young kids that I see every other weekend, I definitely want A/C in the car. So now, I hope you see what I'm up against. There's some out there, but very limited, that have everything I want. I'm finding only a low percentage have A/C in them.

Once I find "The One", then I can start sinkin money into it with mods. Turbo is out for me, cause this is gonna be my daily driver. But S/C might be part of the scheme. There's lots to decide once I get it like engine swap: do I keep it easy and put in another B16 or do I go with a B18? I haven't come to all of those yet, it'll depend on timing and my money situation.

But thanks for asking, Mossy.



My Edit: BTW, I was lookin at the 2001and up SiR model (160HP), but I just don't think I like the look of it. (no offence to any owners on here, but that's just my preference) I may get a coupe, but ONLY if I find a really good deal, cause I like the Hatch look the best. Because I'm in no rush, I'm not very willing to comprimise.
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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are you using autotrader.com and cars.com
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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list the following in the order of importance to you.
1. Weight
2. Volume
3. Fuel Economy
4. Reliability
5. Durability
6. Cost
7. Noise and Vibration
8. Performance
9. Service Requirements
-4,5 and 6 are about the same, so put them in the front.
-6 and 8 are functions of one another for me, but I am broke so I guess 6 then 8.
-3 is nice to have
-1 weight isn't really a concern unless it starts to interfere with 8
-I couldn't care less about 2 unless 3 suffers too much.
-7, I like noise.

Would you prefer more top speed or a lower 0 to 60?
-- 0-60


Have you ever blown an engine? If so, how did you do it? Were you racing, tuning, etc.?
Nope.


If you currently own a performace 4 cylinder engine: ---yes
A. How satisfied are you with the fuel economy? ----Kick ***, umm..3, I suppose

1 = Too good! I would trade anything for more power.
2 = Good enough.
3 = Would like it to be better without sacrificing power.
4 = Would like it to be better even if it means a little sacrifice in power.

B. What is the current horsepower and fuel economy rating? ----Rated 125 Hp @ the crank and I get ~ 30-35

C. What is your ideal horsepower and fuel economy rating? ----Ideal?? I'd like to have 300 horse with 30-35, can you make that happen?

D. Is horsepower more important than torque? ----Since they are a function of one another I dont' think one is more important than the other, but since I like 0-60 I guess torque is more important to me right now.
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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1. Weight
2. Performance
3. Fuel Economy
4. Reliability
5. Durability
6. Service Requirements
7. Noise and Vibration
8. Cost
9. Volume



0-60. you can use it all the time, but top speed only once in awhile.


I havent actually "blown" one, but i warped a head, and a couple of years later i spun a rod bearing on the same motor. not racing either time. just commuting.


A. 2-3. its fine, but who wouldnt want more w/o losing power?



current hp and mpg: ~180 crank, and 26-29 city.



IDEAL: I assume this means what you realistically would like to see. i would like to someday get into the mid 30s per gallon, and 250-300 to the wheels. that is, if i stay with this motor.


if i had the choice of an engine with a 30,000rpm redline that made 50 lb-ft of torque, but made 285hp, and an engine with 285 lb ft of torque, a diesel redline, and only 50 hp, i would take the HP motor.
 
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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Default RE: Engine attributes questions?

well, here goes

reliability
performance
durability
weight
fuel economy
cost
n/v
volume
service requirements

0-60, although i'm currently satisfied with both.

i've destroyed two engines, both in different cars, but both at the exact same location during daily driving. they were both due to poor oil distribution in the engines.

i own a performance v-6, but the fuel economy/performance balance is fine by me

real: 300+ hp, about 22 mpg

ideal: 1400+ hp, runs on air (just seems like such a loaded question)

horsepower and torque are equally important if you are serious about having a fast car. torque is fun if you have an unlimited tire budget, though.
 
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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1. Performance
2. Weight
3. Reliability
4. Fuel Economy
5. Durability
6. Service Requirements
7. Cost
8. Noise and Vibration
9. Volume

Would you prefer more top speed or a lower 0 to 60?

Definitely lower 0-60


Have you ever blown an engine? If so, how did you do it? Were you racing, tuning, etc.?

Nope. I build 'em right.

If you currently own a performace 4 cylinder engine:

A. How satisfied are you with the fuel economy?

2 = Good enough.
3 = Would like it to be better without sacrificing power.

Pretty much in the same boat as sacicons

B. What is the current horsepower and fuel economy rating?

About 137 ATC; 33 city/38 highway

C. What is your ideal horsepower and fuel economy rating?

On this car, only about 250-280 at the wheels, with low to mid 30s mileage.

D. Is horsepower more important than torque?

It is if you're trying to build a super-economy performance 4 banger. For me personally, I'd say it is.
High rpms are where the magic happens. Again, I'm pretty much with sacicons.
 
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