The Lounge This section is for the most off topic of OT posts. although the lounge is moderated, whoring is permitted.

shifting on a bike

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:12 PM
  #1  
ic892003's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
HCF Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,140
From:
Default shifting on a bike

watsup guys, heres the thing im 17 and want to learn how 2 ride a bike, my friend has a some kind of yamaha bike not sure the model, hes willing to teach me but im not sure i dontwant to mess it up because im not sure how the shifting works on a bike, can someone explain to me how ur suppose to shift, is it something u kick or use with ur hand????? im confused
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:26 PM
  #2  
AgentofDarkness's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,180
From: Chicago, Illinois
Default RE: shifting on a bike

I have a bike and i've taught 2 ppl how to ride on it. I'll tell you that if the bike is bigger than 300CCs or so, don't learn on it. The power in a 600CC bike is ridiculous. Ive seen the 2 guys i taught fall off the biek in a turn. Mind you that I have a 250 which is pretty light and has no power in the bottom end. With a 600CC, you have hold -on-to-your-***** power throughout the powerband which can get you in trouble quick. As far as how ****, its pretty simple(i think easier than a car). The shift lever on most bikes in the left footpeg. The 2 bikes ive ridden had a 1down 5 up arrangement. What that means is that when the bike is in neutral, you kick down to put the bike into first. After you take off (as in you are rolling), kick the lever up to shift into 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. If you want to go down in gears, kick down. If you want to go into neutral, shift to first (jus kick down till u can't kick down anymore) and come to a complete stop (clutch lever should be pushed in) and once you are stopped kick the lever up. The neutral light will turn on. Also, when i mean kick, i mean you have to move the lever up. To move the lever up, you put your toe under the lever and push up. To move the lever down you put your toe above the lever and push down. I am assuming that you know how to drive a manual, ie how to work the clutch and the gas. One thing to make sure you remeber about bikes is that you have to balance it. That means that if you rev the engine and drop the clutch bad things will happen. My cousin did that when he was riding and ended up under the bike. ALso, if your on a 600CC the bike has enough power to pop a wheelie that you don't want to do when your learning. Also, if your friend cannot clearly explain to you how to work the shift lever, clutch, accelerator and show you exactly what to do he should not be teaching you. My dad taught me in India, but once I came back to the U.S. and bought my own bike I have been on my own. Once you figure out how to get rolling, its really not that hard. My dad only taught me for like an hour (he was actually sitting on the back) and i had it all figured out. Go slow at first and wear a helmet. Any other questions just ask.
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:40 PM
  #3  
ic892003's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
HCF Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,140
From:
Default RE: shifting on a bike

i learned how to drive a manual in india!!!! lol i bet were da only ones on this forum lol but thanks that helped a lot, so basically its like driving a car can u explain to me a little better how u come 2 a complete stop, and how ur suppose 2 shift down??
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:48 PM
  #4  
AgentofDarkness's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,180
From: Chicago, Illinois
Default RE: shifting on a bike

First i'll cover how to come to a complete stop. Push the clutch in completly. Shift down to 1st. I usually just kick the shifter down until it doesn't go down any more. At the same time you are going to want to press the front brake down. The rear brake is very dangerous since it can cause your rear end to lock up and make the rear tire slide around. In a sport bike, 600+ CCs, the brakes are very powerful. The front uses twin discs and the rear has single discs with some pretty powerful calipers (2-4 pistons). You have to be careful with the brakes on these bikes because you could end up doing endos and locking brakes up. TO shift down, push the clutch in and kick the shift lever down and let the clutch out. Downshifting is a little bit tricky b/c you have to match the speed of the bike with the gear. If you are going too fast and shift into a lower gear the revs are going to go really high and you are going to be pushed forward.
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:57 PM
  #5  
armorman2001's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 70
From:
Default RE: shifting on a bike

Dude the power of the bike isn't that big of a deal if you respect it, I taught 3 people here all on a 05 GSXR 1000. Just remember your gearshift is on your left foot and your rear brake is on your right foot. Your gearing is usually 1st gear is down, 2-6 is up. Also remember your clutch is your left hand and your front brake is your right hand. Using your brakes you need to apply about 70% front brake and 30% rear brake. Don't give it a lot of gas taking off or you will fall right off the back of the bike, and let the clutch out slowly until you feel the bike pulling away. Good Luck
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:43 PM
  #6  
AgentofDarkness's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,180
From: Chicago, Illinois
Default RE: shifting on a bike

ORIGINAL: armorman2001

Dude the power of the bike isn't that big of a deal if you respect it, I taught 3 people here all on a 05 GSXR 1000.
Dude it is a big deal. The problem with big bikes is that you don't realize the amount of weight your throwing around and the amount of power that goes to the wheels when you turn the accelerator. I can personally think of half a dozen situations where had i been on a bigger bike i would have ended up with some road rash or worse. And these situations weren't the times when i was going WOT or doing something stupid. Most crashes happen to people within the first 6 months of riding and a big factor is the how big the bike is. Every experianced rider will tell you that a 600CC or 1000CC bike is not a good starter bike. Also, it is good advice to use the front brake 100% of the time if your a beginner b/c it is alot easier to lock up the back brakes.
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:59 PM
  #7  
Misha's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,479
From:
Default RE: shifting on a bike

I would second Agent on this. Ideally one wants to start on something like 125cc or even less, then move 250, then 350, etc. I started on 350, and within minutes I hit a parked truck. This was not because of the power, this was because of the weight - I was pretty good bicycle rider by that time, I just did not realize how different heavy bike is in handling.

My friend tried to teach his wife on 350, and they ended up hitting a pole and braking her arm, cause she just turned the throttle all the way and then her only desire was to hold on to the handle bar as hard as she could, so she phisically could not turn throttle back. And we are talking something like 23-25hp here...
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:36 PM
  #8  
civicblend97's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 371
From: NC
Default RE: shifting on a bike

ive rode since 3yrs old 70cc 3wheeler, 5yrs 50cc bike, 7yrs 80cc, 9yrs 200cc, 16yrs 1000cc goldwing. ive rode some sport bikes to 600cc 900cc and i dont remember what the others were. i agree a 600cc is not to powerful it seems kinda slow actually. my uncle i live with has a 1800cc honda

vtx thats fun i ride it alot, a guy at the honda was riding a 900something cc sprot bike and said he had a vtx flat out run him like 3 times in a row. my friend has a 600cc sprot bike and my 1978 goldwing will out run him.

but a bike is not hard to ride just take ur time and BE CAREFUL brakes should not be a big problem to u i would say find a parking lot thats empty like a church lot start out there and get a feel for thing thats how i taught some of my friends to ride. start out on a dirt bike if u can.

good luck and have fun wear ur helmet
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:36 PM
  #9  
ic892003's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
HCF Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,140
From:
Default RE: shifting on a bike

no lol, i belive the bike is 250 cc
 
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:43 PM
  #10  
Misha's Avatar
HCF Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,479
From:
Default RE: shifting on a bike

You still are better off wearing your helmet [8D]LOL
 



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:35 PM.