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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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hi guys lately when i use my a/c if i'm driving then cruise and put into neutral, the idle will stick above 1000 rpms and will sometimes VERY slowly try to climb down. have only noticed this with a/c and is not constant but enough to cause to ask. any ideas/solutions?
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Ac is hooked up to belt and needs to be spun at a certain speed for your AC to work correctly. This is why its really only recomended if you are driving since your belts would be going fast anyways.
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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^ yup... your idle depends on engine load. If you turn your a/c on, it'll idle high. a/c off with the fan on, and it'll idle around where it's supposed to (if the engine is warm); I believe it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 800rpm. Turn the a/c and fan completely off, and watch the idle drop down to 500 or so rpm.

A high idle with a/c on is perfectly normal, and nothing to be worried about. Just remember that a/c on a small engine draws from the engine's power quite a bit. I'd recommend turning off your a/c when you need to accelerate or go up hills. If you're just cruising on the highway, by all meanskeep the a/c on. Personally, I almost never use my a/c (only to defrost/de-fog quickly), and as far as I'm concerned, the fan is used for one thing: keeping air moving around the engine bay at stop lights (aftermarket headers create a lot of heat). If it's nice outside, my windows are down and the a/c's off
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Well, yeah. But the A/C should be able to function even at idle... albeit not as well as with the rpms up a little higher.

The thing that's causing the idle to rise and fall when the A/C compressor engages/disengages is the Idle Air Controller. The IAC takes its cues from the ECU. After receiving a signal that the A/C compressor is coming on, the ECU tells the IAC to open up a little, letting more air in and causing the injector system to compensate for the extra air by injecting a little more gas. Tons of computer stuff going on for even the simple little things.

Bottom line - this is a normal function. Don't worry about it until it doesn't happen anymore.
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Yeah I use to wonder about this myself until I realized that the AC is running off of the belts so yeah its gonna cause a higher idle than if the AC was off. You have nothing to worry about.
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: reaper2022
If it's nice outside, my windows are down and the a/c's off
You can get away with that in PA.

West Texas.... not so much.
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: Type RB

ORIGINAL: reaper2022
If it's nice outside, my windows are down and the a/c's off
You can get away with that in PA.

West Texas.... not so much.
Lol yeah, when i visited there 100 and over degrees everyday is not so much fun. You NEED the a/c on all the time
 
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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thanks guys i totally understand the idle should be higher than normal, my problem is (this is happened 3 times since using a/c this week) if i'm gradually accelerating and i decide to slow down or come to a stop, put it in neutral, let foot off gas. the idle will stick above 1000 rpms maybe like 1500/1800 rpms as if my foot is still on pedal. i drive off then its fine at idle next time. again only with a/c on. otherwise the idle with a/c on is about 800/900 rpms which i know is perfectly acceptable.
 
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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That's a nifty feature of the IAC. It gradually steps down the exhaust, instead of returning back to idle ASAP. There's a bunch of reasons why it does that, but the one that cracks me up the most is 'it helps you to not stall out on a hill.'
I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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