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Old 01-13-2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by simons81
I will try to find out info on when the timing belt was changed. The original owner might think I'm creepy for calling her but it could save me tons. Maybe the ole broke college kid routine will ease her into the odd conversation.
The piece of mind is worth the time and effort. Good luck.

I definitely drive lightly. I got an average of 48mpg driving the 400 mile round trip from Crater Lake and back in my 97 Sentra.
Wow. I didn't know Sentra's could get such great mileage. Was the trip all downhill?

Is fuel filter worth looking at? What about those add-to-gasoline fuel injector cleaners?
Changing the fuel filter (~$20 replacement) with 120K miles is highly recommended, but it won't likely improve the mileage unless it's pretty clogged, which seems unlikely.

Definitely -- (regarding the fuel treatment). Check out the Seafoam treatment in the DIY section. By the way, I noticed recently that my local Walmart now sells cans of Seafoam.
 
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:53 PM
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What's your guys' thoughts on cold air intakes? I figured they would add power and consume more fuel but sources on the net say they can save fuel? Is this true?

Also, in the DIY section, it mentions removing the bumper on a '97 to perform the add-on? You really need to pull the entire bumper?
 
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:45 PM
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Keep in mind that the air pressure in the tires SERIOUSLY affects gas mileage.
I recommend 32PSI cold pressure for all four tires, in addition to the new fuel filter, spark plugs (NGK ZFR6F-11) , cap, rotor and wire set that were previously mentioned.

Here are the Honda part#s
98079-5614G SPARK PLUG (ZFR6F-11) (NGK) $2.52
32722-P2A-003 WIRE, IGNITION (SUMITOMO) $62.98 wire set
30102-P54-006 CAP ASSY. $18.81 distributor cap
30103-P08-003 HEAD ASSY., ROTOR $17.17 rotor
16010-ST5-933 FILTER SET, FUEL (TOYO ROKI) $21.06

I also recommend a valve adjustment if you can hear the valves rattle when the motor is cold.
You will need a valve cover gasket set
12030-P2A-000 GASKET SET, HEAD COVER $28.34
After doing all of this you should have NO PROBLEM breaking the 30MPG barrier.

I recommend that you buy the parts here - SanLeandro Honda is in the SanFrancisco bay area and they sell ALL HONDA OEM parts for 20%off list price (no sales tax too if you're outside of CA). You also might get your local Honda dealer to price match SanLeandro's prices on the parts (if you are very nice with the parts guy).
http://www.slhondaparts.com/browse.a...ansLevel=4ATKA

The part#s I gave are for a '99 Civic LX w/AT and a D16Y7 engine
 

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Old 01-16-2009, 11:20 PM
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I'm going to try to do the timing on my car tomorrow. I was reading this DIY, https://www.hondacivicforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=16210 , and noticed the reference to the "crank". Ie, connect the timing gun clip to the spark plug wire nearest the crank. What is the crank? LOL. Sorry, I'm a retard!

(By the way, theJGB3, thank you for the parts list. I was definitely purchase all the items you mentioned. While I'd love to do my tuneup this weekend, I'm guessing OEM is better than some other brand from Autozone for a lot of that stuff, right?)
 

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Old 01-17-2009, 06:26 AM
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Yeah, good idea to go with JGB's OEM parts.

Crank refers to the crankshaft pulley. The timing light is connected to the spark plug wire for cylinder #1, which is furthest from the distributor and closest to the crankshaft pulley (pictured with timing marks and pointer in the DIY you mentioned).
 
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:28 AM
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Ok, last question and I think I'm good for a while with my lame questions. About the Seafoam treatment mentioned above.

https://www.hondacivicforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=14612

It mentions pouring 1/3 into the gas tank, and another 1/3 into the crank case, and letting it suck up the final 1/3 into the vacuum advance tube. For the crank case, that means just taking off the oil cap and pouring it straight in, yes? And for the vacuum line, where might I find this? It says it's connected to the fuel pressure regulator. I'm not sure where this is located.

Thank you guys for all the help by the way. I essentially have a laundry list of several maintenance tasks I'm going to do. You guys have saved this broke *** college student some good moola. Thank you thank you
 
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:37 AM
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...For the crank case, that means just taking off the oil cap and pouring it straight in, yes?

And for the vacuum line, where might I find this? It says it's connected to the fuel pressure regulator. I'm not sure where this is located.
Yes -- drive the car for 100 miles or so and then change the oil promptly.

I find the vacuum line attached to the brake booster to be more convenient.
 
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:59 AM
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Where might I find the brake booster?
 
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:32 AM
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The vacuum hose used to feed in the Seafoam is also shown:

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Old 01-17-2009, 11:42 AM
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That picture helps a ton. So I should remove the vacuum hose from the master cylinder and slowly pour a third of the bottle in the hose? Err, I guess, as the DIY says, submerge part of the hose into the bottle, which will then suck the fluid into the hose, but do so without completely flooding the hose right?
 


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