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Old 02-04-2009, 07:50 AM
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Hi everyone,

I hope somebody here will be able to help me


Mods: cheap SRI / 4-1 H / de-cat / greddy evo2 cat back exhaust

I have a problem with my 6g 99’ b16a2. After I have changed the headers to stainless 4-1 and put a de-cat the car has lost throttle response on low revs.
I don’t know much about cars, but I presume that the air fuel maps should be adjusted after those changes. Unfortunately I don’t know a place where this can be done.

Can somebody tell me please how can I increase this without changing back to OEM. Would a CAI do the trick ? Apparently the CAI acts negatively on the throttle response comparing to a SRI…. (?)

Thanks a lot !
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:59 AM
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you lost back pressure, and low end power.

and yes a cai slows throttle response, but not to much. Is your timing right?
 
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:11 AM
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Does your car idle properly? Double check that all the vacuum lines are hooked back up properly. That's all I got
 
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron_EX
Is your timing right?
This is definitely worth looking into. Use a timing gun and don't forget to jump the service connector during the procedure.

Have you tried to retrieve CEL codes from the ECU? Is the primary O2 sensor working? Is there an exhaust leak from the gasket of the new header?
 
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:03 PM
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Well, since you have an OBD-II system (assuming the b16 not the vti version and is also OBD-II compliant). Are you still using the factory locations for the primary and secondary oxygen sensors? Are you plugging the hole for the secondary with a dummy plug? If so, then you will have a bad throttle response due to the fact that they are used to adjust the fuel/air mixture according to the exhaust output. Are you throwing a CEL? Has this just recently happened when you installed the header? Has your timing slightly slipped?
 
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by denice25
Some of your parts are not compatible to each other. Better got to the mechanic.
what? what ya talking about??
 
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Old 02-06-2009, 04:57 AM
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thanks for all replies !!!! much appreciated

as suggested I will check the timing and CEL. There are no leaks from the gasket of the new header.



Originally Posted by ej6buddy
Well, since you have an OBD-II system (assuming the b16 not the vti version and is also OBD-II compliant). Are you still using the factory locations for the primary and secondary oxygen sensors?
it is a VTi. Yes, I'm still using the factory locations. Should I move the o2 sensor closer to the throttle body ?

Thanks again !
 
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:37 AM
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There is no throttle body heated oxygen sensor.
 
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:58 AM
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To me it just sounds like you've moved your power band into the higher RPMs, probably increasing max horsepower, but losing your low and mid-range torque. If it's really considerably less, then start looking for mechanical issues.
 
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ej6buddy
There is no throttle body heated oxygen sensor.

sorry, I meant throttle sensor (lambda sensor ?)

I thought that you meant mowing the lambda sensor closer to throttle body, so when it opens the air will suck harder (for the sensor) just by the throttle body opening, and the sensor will read this a bit different (higher loaded) ...

Originally Posted by ej6buddy
Are you still using the factory locations for the primary and secondary oxygen sensors?
I believe that they have been moved a bit with the new header. Should I move them somewhere closer or further from the cat/header ?
 

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