Oh, sorry. I wasn't trying to make fun of you or anything. I guess I do use the two terms fairly loosely with each other, so I can understand why it might have come across as two different things.

 

86.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.....

 

LMAO!!!!


Are they now?

 

i was impressed...99.4%

 

Yeah, that other .6% is when people are talking about electric motors... then it only works one way.

 

Civic SI around the year 96 - 00 i believe come in hatchback or coupe. SI Hatchback are much more common than coupe.

 

lets face it....does vw have a site devoted to it like this?

 

Ummm....I really don't know,maybe. I know there are tons of VW fanatics,VW magazies etc. Fact is I am no VW junkie either.I only have one and it's my first.I have only had one Honda also, a '95 Accord. I think the VW GTI 1.8T's are awesome fun cars. I understand they handle way better than any stock Honda. I also accept that VW will likely never be as reliable as Honda. I really don't plan on any extremely aggresive cornering anyway. It is nice to have some tight handling on the highway though. Annnnyway,I am not on here to pump up VW's.They seem to have their strenght in performance not reliability.Honda seems to have the exact reverse reputation.Not so?? I think eventually I will get a Civic EX.Coupe or sedan...I'm not sure. The coupe is a little lighter and perhaps therefore a tad quicker. Coupe might be the move.

 

Definitely coupe. I too think GTI's are fun cars (though you'll notice I'm not the biggest VW fan), but I would argue against GTI's handling better than Civics. Though it's true that I haven't driven any 6 or 7G's to really test them out, I'm damn sure a stock 4G (and maybe 5G) hatch will outcorner a GTI (as long as you put some decent tires on it...)

And as for performance, Honda's (engines) are some of the most high-performance mechanical creations of the times. If you compare them to other engines of their size, output, and efficiency with anything else, they are far ahead of the curve in performance (though it's not the kind of "performance" you would normally think of). If Honda wanted to, they could build an exotic or supercar that would put most of today's dream machines to shame. But that's just not what they're about.

Oh, and I'm not trying to impress my mindset on anyone and everyone; a lot of this is IMO (except the handling thing ).

 

By a "hatch" I guess u mean the Si? If so then VW has the VR6 GTI...I think it's called the GR or something..I forget.It has 200 or more horse and comes with 17in wheels.I would guess it can handle way better then the GTI 1.8T's. Then again..Honda has the 2000S.
But seriously,u think a stock Civic EX coupe can out handle a GTI VW? I'll take your word for it as u seem to have the experience.It does not seem true though. GTI boasts handling while Civ boasts the best compact in its class.TOTALLY different,no?