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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 03:17 AM
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Yea whilst alot of what 727kid is correct, I dont agree with the way he shared his thoughts.
 
Old Apr 21, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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you should have gone with the dual 2 ohm subs and get a mono with 1000 RMS (alpine mrd-1000), but in your case you got the 4 ohm versions, so you should find a 1 ohm stable mono amp thats rated to 1000 RMS. I have a 12" Type-R and a 600 RMS alpine mrd-605 amp, and it sounds great.
 
Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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.... That doesnt make a lick of sence. Every speaker is 4 ohms. Even yours. But it is dual voice coil, meaning that it hastwo voice coils at 4 ohms each. If we refer to the current division principle, 1/Rt = 1/R1 + 1/R2, 1/Rt = 1/4 + 1/4, 1/Rt = 2/4, Rt/1 = 4/2, Rt = 2. Total resistance is 2 ohms. So your one speaker produces 2 ohms resistance, same as what his type R dual voice coils do. You only need a 2 ohm amp because you only have one sub. Adding a second sub like yours in parrallel to your current one will make the resistance 1 ohm.
Umm one thing that did cross my mind is wiring the dual voice coils in series, and the amps in parallel, creating a total of 4 ohm resistance. So you would only need a 4 ohm stable at that produces 1000W RMS at 4 ohms. This may be easier to find that a 1 ohm stable amp but it may still prove a challange because even the before mentioned MRD-M1005 is only 1000W RMS at 2 ohms at 14.4v. So it will fall pittyfully short of the required 1000 WattsRMS at 4 ohm at 12v required.
BTW, the MRD-M605 is 600W RMS at 2 ohms for 14.4v, so its only about 400W RMS in a car.
 
Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Every speaker is 4ohms?

So my dual 1s are 4ohms? And cabinent speakers that are single 8 are really 4 too?
 
Old Apr 21, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Every speaker is 4ohms?

So my dual 1s are 4ohms? And cabinent speakers that are single 8 are really 4 too?
the 727kid....Don't listen toCHAOScause he's just a little ***** that thinks he knows everything, but in fact he doesn't.

AND CHAOS....by the way he got 2 subs. Anyways, i was saying he should have gotten a mrd-1000 if he had gotten 2 2ohm DVC subs, wich would have given him a total 2 ohm load. and the mrd-605 produces 600 watts RMS at 14.4volts, wich my car running is pretty close to that. also you said to get an amp that can handle 1000 watts at 4 ohms, wich would be more expensive than finding a mono amp that can handle 1 ohm. Don't come in here with your formulas (wich I know cause i'm an electrician and car electronics installer) and think your smarter than everybody. and by the way not all speakers are 4ohms......
 
Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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all you need is a mono block that does a 1000rms at 1ohm... if you give us a budget we can help you out with that. using a class d mono block is much more efficient to use on your electrical system for your subs... i really hope you amp your speakers too cuz you prolly wont hear a lot with just bass...


 
Old Apr 22, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Subs are for ricers and Nags with 20 fos.
 
Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:03 AM
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Anyways, i was saying he should have gotten a mrd-1000 if he had gotten 2 2ohm DVC subs, wich would have given him a total 2 ohm load. also you said to get an amp that can handle 1000 watts at 4 ohms, wich would be more expensive than finding a mono amp that can handle 1 ohm. Don't come in here with your formulas (wich I know cause i'm an electrician and car electronics installer) and think your smarter than everybody. and by the way not all speakers are 4ohms......
You didnt say DVC subs in your first post. Meaning I took it as a SVC 2 ohm or a DVC wired with itself in parallel to make a 2 ohm sub. Both of which do not give 2 ohms total load. If thats what you mean, than be clear about it. And I never said a 1000W 4 ohm amp was cheaper, just that it might be easier to find than a 1 ohm stable amp. Infact, I even sugested a 1 ohm D class monoblock 1000WRMS in the first place when the kidwas talkingsome crap about 4 channel amps. And I dont think Im smarter than everybody, but clearly I am smarterthan someone who is asking for help on a topic so I do my best toinform them of everything they might want to know. Id muchrather that someone knowswhy they need a 1 ohm 1000W monoblock and not just get told to get one cause if he just did what he was told, he would have bridged a 4 channel or something rediculous by now. And I will agree with you on the speakers, I should have made myself more clear. No not every speaker is 4 ohms, but in car audio, generally speaking,most speakers are infact 4 ohms. And alpines site states that the MRD-605 is only 400W at 12v, andconsidering we are using a 12v power source, I thinkit is safe to say that your amp isn't putting out a stright 600W.

Any are you refering to me as the little ***** that doesnt know anything or the727kid?
 
Old Apr 22, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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when i was talking about the dual 2 ohm version, i was talking about the dual 2 ohm each coil, wich in fact will give him 1 ohm or 4 ohms each sub, wich then can be brought to 2ohms. but he got the dual 4ohm coils wich can be wired to 2 ohms or 8 ohms each sub, wich can then be brought to 4 ohms. and yes i was talking to you cause i hate people that try to correct me when I right, if you have an opinion, sure go ahead, but don't be writting comments like ".... That doesnt make a lick of sence" at my posts. And yes a mono amp is better on your electrical system.
 
Old Apr 22, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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Sorry for the confusion. Try and be more specific when you are talking about these kinds of things because you as a sparky would know that things can get very messy, very quickly when there is one little error.
 



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