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Old 03-25-2011, 08:53 PM
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Question Shifting without the clutch

Anyone done this? I'm scared to try for fear I might blow something in my car up lol. Can you explain how?
 
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:36 AM
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:03 PM
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Good Call. lol-sorry bit of a newbie
 
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't try to teach yourself on a car you care about, as it's an easy thing to mess up.

Anyway, to pull it out of gear without the clutch (the easy part), load the engine (foot on the throttle in gear) then quickly unload the engine (take your foot off the throttle nice and quick). Slightly after unloading the engine (we're talking fractions of a second here), pull the shifter to neutral. If it feels like you used the clutch then you did it correctly.

Putting a car into gear without the clutch is much harder and pretty much either involves memorizing vehicle speeds you normally do gear changes or having a very, very good "feel" of your car. Let's say at 50mph in 5th gear you're at 2,000rpm. Basically, if you're in neutral and moving at 50mph you should be able to shift to 5th without the clutch; all it involves is being at the right engine speed at the right wheel speed. Pretty much, just memorize how much engine speed you drop with each gear change and do the math on the fly (or just shift at the same engine speed at the same time), dropping it into gear at exactly the right engine speed for whatever wheel speed.


I don't know if that was easy to follow or not. For what it's worth, I've noticed I no longer use the clutch to pull my car out of gear at all; shifting into 5th involves the clutch about 50% of the time, though I usually use the clutch to put it into 1st-4th.
 
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Old 03-26-2011, 07:46 PM
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Thanks! Maybe I'll try it once but I do care a lot about my car so if I don't get it at first I won't be trying anymore. My clutch is probably pretty bad too b/c it's the original with 148xxx miles on it lol.
 
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:26 PM
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It depends on how the car was driven for those 148,000 miles. I've seen vehicles with 300,000+ miles on the factory clutch and I've seen cars in the shop at under 3,000 miles the clutch replaced.

I'd recommend at least learning to pull the car out of gear without the clutch (actually, clutchless shifting is a good skill to have in general); my fastest shifts involve the using the clutch as I'm passing through neutral (pull it out of gear without the clutch, hit the clutch as I hit neutral, drop it into gear with the clutch and drop the clutch). If you're wondering how dropping the clutch could result in a perfectly smooth shift, it's the same idea as clutchless shifting; the right engine speed for the next gear at the right wheel speed will result in a smooth shift.
 
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