Before you discount me why don't you read a haynes repair manual. You attitude stinks. When i give advice it is the truth. the haynes repair manual is based on the 1996 - 2000 honda civic, integra, and crv. The info i am talking about is in chapter 6, section 4. If you like i will email you the section in the book. The OBD-I codes for an o2 sensor is P1162-P1169 (48, 61, 41, 48). You probably would be better off if you hook up a scan tool to your car but if you don't have one then this is the cheaper option. If you are not comfortable doing this then you should bring you car to the dealer, he will use the OBD-II scantool and charge you.

 

I have, and a ton of it is horribly inaccurate... read the next quote for my explanation as to why.

You see that's my problem, the Haynes is too damned generalized. There's 5 different model engines in the 96-00 Civic, 2 or 3 for the Teg and the CRV is a completely different animal. I hate Haynes.


Not all of the codes are the same between obd1 and 2. Why would a Haynes talk about OBDI codes for a 96-00 Civic when 96-98 are obd2a and a 99-00 Civic is obd2b? I'm at a loss for words when it comes to an exlanation for that.

88-91 obd0
92-95 obd1
96-98 = 2a
99-00 = 2b


In conclusion, don't trust all of the content in a Haynes. I've looked through many a Haynes on cars I know tons about and seen some pretty blatantly incorrect/overly generalized information.

Oh and...

Did I ask you?

 

Hey Mr. knowit All

The buttton line is that newer cars use OBD-II but they also have OSB-I. You can use either or. The next time you post info, se your head! I don't care that you don't like haynes manuals because the fact of the matter is that the procedure that I posted works. OSB-I do apply here because it can be used in this application.

P.S. The next time you open your mouth do so homework first.

 

yeah, they make a few mistakes, but not on stuff like whether or not you can pull a code on an obd2 system. i dont really know about other cars, but yes, this works on hondas. i know you wont do it, but im asking you to try it. go out to your car and unplug a sensor so that you get a check engine light. then pull the 2 wire plug out from where the ecu goes, jump a wire across it, and then turn the ignition on. it will blink out the error code. now i still dont think you will do it, and im sure you wont admit it when you find out youre wrong. and as for them being generalized, the civic integra and crv are all built on the same platform, so its all pertinent info. when there is a difference they usually point it out, that particular one (the 96-00 civ, 94-01 teg, and whatever crv) is a lot thicker than the 92-95 civic book. thats because it has info on all the cars.and as for you...(insert snide parting comment here)!

 

Listen you little pipsqueak.

You talk about "discounting" someone and all this other bullcrap nonsense, you're such a little hypocrite. Perhaps you should listen to yourself before you discount me. Perhaps you should know me first before you hop in that pot, mr kettle. You have no idea my background and you have no idea what kind of research I did. So before I get another letter like this in my email.

LEARN WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO FIRST.

When my car threw a code two weeks ago I looked up all the codes and sure as ****, the OBD1 codes did not match anything I could find for OBD2, which my car is. I tried the paperclip, and I was not getting the car to throw any codes I tried numerous ways and times, and it never did anything. I do know what I am talking about and I do have personal experience with this.

I stand by my statement that you CANNOT stick a paperclip in the sensor pinout and grab codes from an OBDII car. I have NEVER seen this done, and I have had numerous people including ASE Certified mechanics, with at least 10 years of certification under their belts, tell me that using a paperclip and turning the key is not going to happen. I don't care what you think, and I WILL discount your blatant disreguard for myself if I feel necessary. If you have a problem with me you DO NOT EMAIL ME EVER AGAIN.

This thread has gone way the hell off the topic and I am closing this bullcrap nonsense.