http://www.autozconcept.com/product_...oducts_id=5428

why so cheap??? seems like a legit site too

 

ok once again thanks a lot and baron^^^^^^^^^ lots and lots of usefull info thanks a lot.............yah im trying my hardest to do as much research that my newbie brain can handle....im trying my hardest not to cheap out but still floating on the good deal/absolute **** line, and all your opinions and info help a lot one more question, anyone know how the greddy ecu piggyback e-manage ultimate works it runs about 500$ thanks again!!!!

 

yah that is weird im sure someone on here has the answer to bad that wont fit my engine )at least i believe so

 

Its along the same lines as an ebay kit. Lilman, dont rush this, youll regret it.

 

why so set on emangle? from what i just read about the ultimate version, its a new update of emanage to compare with the f/ic, and you still have to buy the pressure harness seperate. the f/ic is a nice compact all inclusive unit with a built in pressure sensor. aem's list price is $464, you can get them cheaper from a variety of places. i know i'm prolly starting to sound like an ad campaign for dezod but theirs is listed at $414. if you can solder and have the time, then you're done and out the door for 80 bucks cheaper. or you can get the pnp harness for 125, and i highly recommend it. with the harness it took literally 15 minutes to install. so you're out the door for about 30 dollars more with a better unit, easier to deal with, and a pnp harness. by all means make your own decisions, thats just one guys opinion.
read this: info about f/ic and emanage, open loop v. closed loop and a few other tid bits
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79...post-11-a.html
here is a guy that loves the ultimate, but isnt running a turbo, he is using it mainly for the rev and speed limiter stuff
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/79...its-alive.html

 

o ok my fault baron i thought you were pushing for the standalone only (sloppy reading) ya that looks like a solid managment system for the money that definetly look like my bestoption ok well if all goes as planned im going with this kit http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsports_version.cfm and the fi/c (AEM) and i will hopefully have it installed this month, i will be sure to post pictures/videos after complete, thanks a lot guys and for anymore tips PLEASE POST!!!!!!

 

wait you have a d17? hondas worst engine for mods. Do it right the first time, build it. Dont go with a piggy back unit. Theyre garbage and fool the ecu into thinking things. Use hondata or somethin of that sort

 

And I wouldn't even considering turboing a D17. You'd be better off swaping a K20a2 in there and turboing that. You'd get AMAZING results.. Sure, its kinda costy, but thats what you gotta do when you want serious performance.

 

yea, there was someone on here who built and boosted a d17 and made good numbers, just took time and money

 

https://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_456149/tm.htm