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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Yeah,when you get your tires aligned they are mainly focusing on adjusting the toe and setting it back to 0. Intentionally setting up your car to have positive or negative toe is tantamout to having a bad alignment, except that it is even on both sides.

I know that really wonky toe settings are common in some offroad racing as the wear is not extreme on dirt, and it can add significant steering stability in that application. I used a decent amout of toe (1 to 5 degrees depending on the condition of the track) on my RC10T remote control truck back in the day as well (top view: / \ ) I don't recall if that is + or - toe. It made a huge difference in handling on loose dirt, and made it easier to flick the truck into turns.

I've never heard of any amout of toe being used in any sort of on road racing, and no cars I've ever heard of have it as spec...

I'm not an expert on any of this, so I won't be offended if anyone points out inaccuracies, I'm just going on what I have heard over the years on this subject and I feel that most of my sources of this knowledge are pretty reliable; I believe I'm right, but keep a grain or two of salt handy.
 
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Yeah,when you get your tires aligned they are mainly focusing on adjusting the toe and setting it back to 0. Intentionally setting up your car to have positive or negative toe is tantamout to having a bad alignment, except that it is even on both sides.

I know that really wonky toe settings are common in some offroad racing as the wear is not extreme on dirt, and it can add significant steering stability in that application. I used a decent amout of toe (1 to 5 degrees depending on the condition of the track) on my RC10T remote control truck back in the day as well (top view: / \ ) I don't recall if that is + or - toe. It made a huge difference in handling on loose dirt, and made it easier to flick the truck into turns.

I've never heard of any amout of toe being used in any sort of on road racing, and no cars I've ever heard of have it as spec...

I'm not an expert on any of this, so I won't be offended if anyone points out inaccuracies, I'm just going on what I have heard over the years on this subject and I feel that most of my sources of this knowledge are pretty reliable; I believe I'm right, but keep a grain or two of salt handy.
ur right about racers setting toedifferently as an advantage to turning, but its not only in offroad use. road racers and even autoxers play with toe settings to help better the handling of their car.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires-techpage-1/4.shtml
 
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Really, wow I wouldn't have thought, but I guess when you have a sponsor that buys your tires, or on tracks that are as short as autox it wouldn't be that bad for em.

You learn something new everyday... Thanks for the info civicexracer!
 




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