turbo or na?
ORIGINAL: streetfreakz
as far as being more efficient than some superchargers or turbo's goes? yes they are. we had one of these 'chat forums' do a test on a 96 integra, and compare it to the jackson supercharger for the same vehicle. i was told by one of the members by personal e-mail, that the jackson supercharger called for a 32hp gain, and when they tried the e-turbo they got 31hp. would they admit to this? NO!! they wouldn't. i contacted paxton and vortec personally on this devise, their engineers told me over the phone, that they will not do a test on the product. why? because after looking at the dyno results, they called it a DIRECT THREAT.
as far as being more efficient than some superchargers or turbo's goes? yes they are. we had one of these 'chat forums' do a test on a 96 integra, and compare it to the jackson supercharger for the same vehicle. i was told by one of the members by personal e-mail, that the jackson supercharger called for a 32hp gain, and when they tried the e-turbo they got 31hp. would they admit to this? NO!! they wouldn't. i contacted paxton and vortec personally on this devise, their engineers told me over the phone, that they will not do a test on the product. why? because after looking at the dyno results, they called it a DIRECT THREAT.
As stated before: A true turbo is the only [mainstream] forced induction system that generates engine power from waste energy. Electric fans and superchargers are both taking power right off the crank.
Also, turbos easily pull 150,000+ rpms consistently, which accounts for their superior air mass numbers (when compared to electric fans). Does your fan run at these speeds? And please don't tell me this has nothing to do with anything. PSI is one thing, but without moving a good solid number of CFM, you might as well be blowing into your intake; I can get generate 12 psi with my mouth if that's any indication of what numbers mean.
More efficient than a turbo? No. More cost-effective (assuming you're running miniscule levels of boost)? Sure. But I'd still need some real proof and a good word from someone I could trust.
are the electric turbo's more effecient than a common exhaust driven turbo? you better believe it they are. i'm kinda confused that this question was even asked. with the common turbo, you have intercoolers-oil coolant lines-and even special heat wraps. all of this because of the high heat factors. lets not forget the cost of installation, or if there are certain items that have to be special made for one to fit, and this always happens. turbo's are not made for many applications as well. lets not forget turbo lag, turbo's will not kick in until around 3,500 rpm's, and then the full effect is not given until the vehicle is at max rpm's. there are many downfalls to turbochargers. but if this is what people would want, then i have no problem with this. the electric turbo does in a way feed of off some wasted energy. most vehicles have a charging system of 14.7 volts, but only use 12 of them. were does the wasted energy go? thats why your vehicle has ground straps, if you remove the ground straps you will burn up the starter in your vehicle every time. the electric turbo will feed of off this wasted 2 volts, this helps in drawing less of off the battery. so no, the electric turbo cannot compare to the higher psi turbo's. but they are and always will be more efficient than one.
Those two volts aren't wasted. In fact they are very important, without those two volts your battery would not get charged. The battery runs on 12 volts but it takes 14 volts to put energy back into the battery because the energy has to be forced back into the batter (its not that technical, but you get the picture).
we were using an aluminum fan at first, but they started imploding. we had to start making them from a mild steel. i can contact our manufacturer of the fans to see what kind of steel their using if you like. their 3.125' dia. with 22 blades that have a 45 degree pitch.
understood, i believe that everybody is skeptical. if there is an address to send the unit too, and you want to send it to my e-mail address, it's walker4617@sbcglobal.net


