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He called you a noob... and you applauded him!

 

It wasnt what he meant. He was pointing that subject out to everybody. I appluaded him because he managed to make absolute sense. I know im a noob but I do understand what is involved in a s/c and how it works.

 

Definately, a s/c is easier and less complex. If you want reliability then go with a supercharger.

Like said, boost varies with alot of things: pulleys, running an intake, opening up the exhaust, even driving up a steep hill will increase boost. I can cruise at highway speeds with minimal boost and in less than a second be up to full boost.
I dont have too much of a traction issue, but im running motor mounts and a stiff suspension. Also, Turbos have an engine wearing issue called "surging" which will wear on an engine also.

FINAL THOUGHT: both are great, its just what kind of setup you are looking for, and a s/c is in NO WAY inferior to a turbo. For the setup you are wanting (low maint. and reliability) a blower is a great choice.

 

Correctamundo

Remington and I spent at least an hour on the phone last night talking about all this. I don't hate Turbos. Don't misunderstand me. I prefer a SC for the way I drive. Instant always-on at ANY RPM boost. With no extra stress on engine oil.

For you that may not be true, you may want only the higher rpm boost.

I just want to make sure SC's get as much of a chance as Turbo's, and don't get a bad rep. There's a reason that SC's are out there, and in use in many applications (including from the factory).

To add one other thing....about the Tach....you don't need one, but you DO need a boost gauge. Go small, and it won't be obtrusive.

 

ahh... nirvana at last!

 

Sorry rem, I wasn't really trying to make fun of you; a lot of people on this thread got kinda serious, so I was trying to lighten up a bit...

I guess I should have been more specific; I was basically talking about Civics (I don't know if you have a S/C Civ... thought you just had the 'Rolla.) But like I said before, in a stock base 4G hatch, you can spin the tires for a good long time with that 70 hp... Civics are just too light for low-end grunt.

And I love how the people who push S/C's are always like, "blowers and turbos are equally good, but here's why blowers are better..." So I'm done trying to argue for turbos in this thread anymore...

 

I can lay an easy 30' of rubber with my SSEi on dry, clean pavement. But it's all in how you manage it. I launch at the dragstrip with hardly a tire squeak. Traction is something to manage, not something to dictate what type of FI you go with. A turbo

 

Have you ever driven a blown Civic? Or even a B-series swap? They can go through tires like you wouldn't believe if you're not careful, but you really don't know until you go there. Like I said, an SSEi has a lot more front-end weight, so it's not exactly on the same plane of comparison.

The biggest problem with that theory when applied to a blown Civ is that, while you're trying to "manage traction," you're burning the clutch down to the rivets. This is not a questionable fact; you can't ride the clutch through that much torque for the sake of traction and expect it to hold up. Replace the clutch? Sure, but a 6-pot will kick hard enough to have the tires going again in no time. And as for wanting to lay patches, I can light up all four tires on my otherwise stock T3/T04 DSM if I feel the desire to, and that's only about 220 turbocharged ft/lbs to all four wheels; you don't need "low-end torque" to do that...

Basically, I just think rem will find himself in a similar situation in no time; that's all.

I'm going to class now, so I won't be able to respond for quite a while...

 

no hard feelings, i wasnt stomping you in my reply if you felt that.