I have been doing research for the past 3 years, hense why i'm looking to see what B series engine people feel are the best...SovXietday, i give credit to you for building a 400hp D engine but that's it...it's a D engine, SOHC 100hp-127hp stock...the compression ratio isn't great and the stroke isn't either...the pistions and rods are not as strong as those in the B and the potential isn't as great...i'm sorry if i seem so sarcastic about this but a B offers greater gains with less work...i have a D16Y7 in my civic and i wish i had more...power sux and so does the redline...for a while i was into the SR20DET, with minor bolt ons and tuning you can easily reach 300-500hp on those engines, i understand that the honda B series are not built to be boosted but they should easily be able to withstand some boost, 8-10psi possibly 15, without the need to completely rip apart the block and build it, your all talking about a bolt on turbo kit with 500hp potential like it's impossible...go and check out the full race site and see for yourselves www.full-race.com

 

There's one really small thing that you're forgetting all about.

Supporting mods.

No, you can't just bolt on a kit and make 500whp. I don't care if it's an ebay kit or a full race kit, you need the supporting mods to withstand the power correctly. Just like I can't bolt on a kit and make 400whp out of a Dseries, you can't bolt on a kit and make 500whp of the Bseries.

You will need, at the least. Pistons and Rods (which, yes, do require tearing the block apart), new oil pump/water pump, rod and main bearings, correctly sized injectors, fuel pump, ECU, tuning system, full street and dyno tune, clutch, etc. Most people overlook this kind of stuff, but you need it all.

300-350whp is about the stock threshhold on these engines.

 

3 years? That's sad.D16Z6 compression~9.14:1. Nearly ideal. Most D-series's are around there, not that stock compression means a damn when you're changing out the pistons. And less work? You'll have to do the exact same thing to your B-series to support that much much power. They are 'built fine for boost', but as Soviet was saying, they require support like any other motor. In addition to Soviet's list, you'd need a limited slip to get traction, and spare parts for when things break (they will at that much power, quicker than you have any idea). Andyou had to bring the ever-nooblet "psi" into your post. https://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_403100/tm.htm

Picking noobs posts apart ftw. Scuttle back to your catalog reading and ricer friends that know everything. (Btw, you'll get a lot more respect if you ask questions rather than making assertions you don't have a clue about.)

 

Wow...you read me like a book...sorry for be so ricer...god i guess when ur a 5th gear member you know everything...sorry to ask questions...god

 

Finally you get it.[8D]Just remember there's no such thing as bolting on 500whp.

 

im noob friendly, but since you wanted to be a ricer you should know that its"God"
also....if you want 500 hp...why do you want A/C? is it because its going to be your daily driver? haha...let me know how you like the stage 3 clutch on that! also, the discription states "for people that are going to be building their engine".....yep, just the same as building a D.

But hey, if you dont want to take these guys advice, (most acctually have boosted civics) and make statements like you know every thing (which its understandable to defend things you have your heart set on) then buy that kit....bolt it on and break stuff... (but dont plan on 500whp with out a tune and internals)

 

a 500whp DD civic is going to be friggin scary to drive...and uncomfortable.

 

prolly rather toasty too....which leads me to another supporting mod...bigger radiator, BIG ol' intercooler, and some really good fans.

 

Alright, i get it alread...but im just figuring that its easier to build a B because there are more parts readily available for the B series...but just for kicks and giggles, any brands or sites u guys can give me to look up D series parts? Cuz if i can cheaply build up my D then i'll go for it...and how but a mustang gt killer for a goal? Better?

 

Forum classifieds offer the best prices I've seen, that and local scrap yards. Ebay has some decent stuff from time to time, but you tend to have to wait to get the price you want. Mind you, I'm cheap as hell. You mightfind a full D16Z6 in the forum classifieds/ebay for 500 or so. You could also say to hell with it and purchase a JDM D15B from an importer website for 700-1000 bucks.Depends on how involved you want to be. If you're like me (really cheap!), you'll want to purchase parts individually and piece the motor together yourself from scratch.

D-series need to be turbocharged to compete. That can be done very cheaply or very expensively. It just depends on how high you want to take it. I don't know what it would take to beat a Mustang GT, but I wouldn't push a D-series much past 400whp on a daily driver, andI would not take it into boost very often at that level. That is pushing it. I can't even imagine driving that powerful of a Civic (yet). Piecing together your own turbo kit is much easier than a motor, and can save you a lot more money, AND you ensure you get good parts where as a lot of parts in kitsrange from questionable to plain junk. There should be some sort of "tubro grocery list" in the DIY section.

I would list some parts too look out for, but for your own sake I think it's much better you find them yourself. Strapping parts out of a catalog to a motor and expecting them to function how you want them to just doesn't happen. Many-a lazy noobs blow motors that way.